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Most builders here won't openly answer in an open forum anyway
it is totally unobtrusive while riding
However, there is some nuance
Write up a list of design comments, I have an assistant in Vietnam, and we've spent ten years working together so he knows how I think and he'll fill in the gaps
In recent years, the company has made an enormous shift towards, if not activism, then at least lowering their own ecological footprint
We dig that Osprey doesnt include them in the DWR coating of this pack and many others weve tested
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